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Our flagship podcast series features thought-provoking conversations with leading thinkers, on topics that span business, technology, economics, and science.

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34 Minutes | May 25, 2023

Economic Factors Underlying Biodiversity Loss with Partha Dasgupta, Simon Levin, and Georg Kell

In conversation with the world's leading sustainability economics thinkers about conceptualizing paths to a sustainable future.

32 Minutes | May 2, 2023

Beyond Disruption with Renée Mauborgne

"Non-disruptive creation is when you create a new market where there once wasn't any. So there's no displacement of industries, companies, or jobs. In a sense, it's the flip side of disruption."

30 Minutes | May 16, 2023

How Big Things Get Done with Bent Flyvbjerg

“As humans, we have a tendency to think fast – we really like to take our first thought and run with it. This causes us to act very spontaneously. In management, that’s a huge problem […]. You need to slow down first and think about what it is you're doing. […] And then you can move fast – and that is also key to success [because] the longer a project is, the more risk it is exposed to, including black swan risks.”

35 Minutes | April 18, 2023

The Microstress Effect with Rob Cross and Karen Dillon

“The problem is we’re getting hit with a volume, velocity, and pace of [microstresses] that our minds weren’t really designed to absorb.[...] Our bodies are reacting to this, and we slowly take ourselves out of things that add meaning to us.”

33 Minutes | April 11, 2023

Think Bigger with Sheena Iyengar

"Brainstorming produces, at best, a sort of okay idea. We either rely on that or we rely on some brilliant human being that might just have the right revelation. [But] to stay ahead of the curve, you have to have your employees know how to come up with useful novel solutions systematically to the problems that they are presented with."

30 Minutes | March 21, 2023

The Crisis of Democratic Capitalism with Martin Wolf

"We can never assume that our comfortable, safe lives in a democratic capitalist society are going to go on forever if we don’t do anything for it. The system is wonderful, but it’s also fragile."

26 Minutes | March 13, 2023

Sustainability, Technology, and Finance with Georg Kell and Andreas Rasche

“It's time to bridge different domains and show how technology and finance are driving forces for sustainability. With this book, we wanted to tear down barriers and maximize the synergies between these three distinct fields.”

28 Minutes | February 27, 2023

Direct with Kathryn Judge

“It's not that intermediaries are bad, but we need to be smart about the role they play, and smart about the risks associated with their size and their multiplicity.”

26 Minutes | February 10, 2023

Leading Through Inflation with Ram Charan

“Uncertainty requires the ability to make shifts in resource allocation, shifts in KPIs, structural change in budgets, and a modular organization structure.”

27 Minutes | January 31, 2023

How to Stay Smart in a Smart World with Gerd Gigerenzer

"To stay smart in a smart world is not just a question of whether deep neural networks can be made smarter, but also how we can be made smarter. Smart technology needs smart citizens."

23 Minutes | January 18, 2023

Harvard Business Review at 100 with Adi Ignatius

"We believe that if you're a lifelong learner, you can learn from the research that people are doing in business and improve your business, improve your life, and improve your career by taking it in."

29 Minutes | December 14, 2022

Unreasonable Hospitality with Will Guidara

"If hospitality is about making people feel seen, the best way to treat them is not like a commodity, but as a unique individual. Unreasonable hospitality means that one size fits one."


41 Minutes | September 28, 2022

Rita McGrath and Roger L. Martin on the Nature of Competitive Advantage

Listen to Roger L. Martin, Professor Emeritus at the University of Toronto, Rita McGrath, Professor of Strategy at Columbia Business School, and Martin Reeves as they debate the nature of competitive advantage.

27 Minutes | November 1, 2022

HANGRY with Mike Evans

"The difference between a hobby and a business is making $0 or making $1. And the difference between a business and a great business is getting a second dollar from a customer who paid you a first dollar already."

25 Minutes | January 5, 2023

The Patient Priority with Stefan Larsson and Jennifer Clawson

"We need to measure the results for patients and learn from the individuals and groups of patients what really works. (...) Value-based healthcare is one that is truly patient-centric and closer to the inner purpose of people working in the sector.”

27 Minutes | October 12, 2022

The Future of Competitive Strategy with Mohan Subramaniam

"In this world of data and digital ecosystems, your competitors aren't just those who offer similar products. Your competitors can also be those who have access to similar data."

37 Minutes | September 13, 2022

The Upside of Uncertainty with Nathan Furr and Susannah Harmon Furr

"If we can frame uncertainty in terms of possibility, rather than potential loss, we will approach it with greater calm, resilience, and courage."

31 Minutes | August 13, 2021

The Power of Trust with Sandra Sucher

A powerful exploration of the changing nature of trust. The book leverages interdisciplinary research, alongside key business case studies, to help elaborate the four components of trust: competence, motives, means, and impact.

29 Minutes | October 25, 2022

IDEAFLOW with Jeremy Utley and Perry Klebahn

"Ideaflow is a way to measure how well you're generating a volume of options to any given problem. Every solution starts as an idea."

33 Minutes | May 3, 2022

A New Way to Think with Roger L. Martin

Listen to Roger L. Martin, Professor Emeritus and former Dean at Rotman School of Management, as he discusses his new book, A New Way to Think, exploring the importance of human ingenuity, change, and, competitive advantage in reinventing the future.

28 Minutes | November 2, 2021

The Human Element with Loran Nordgren and David Schonthal

Loran Nordgren and David Schonthal, professors at Northwestern University’s Kellogg School of Management, discuss their new book. Sharing insight into how to get people to say yes to a new idea or innovation, arguing that people are most persuaded by ideas that they generate themselves.

31 Minutes | June 29, 2021

Rethinking Competitive Advantage with Ram Charan

The world-renowned business advisor and author provides an overview of how leaders — of both traditional and digital companies — can increase their chances of success in the digital age.

28 Minutes | March 8, 2022

Moonshot with Dr. Albert Bourla

Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla shares the story of the creation of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine on our Thinkers and Ideas podcast.

25 Minutes | April 9, 2022

Be Logical – Be Creative – Be Critical with Luc De Brabandere

Building on his knowledge and experience as a corporate philosopher, Brabandere suggests that firms should focus on creatively reinventing themselves with new tools, rather than using current digital tools to optimize existing processes or systems.

30 Minutes | March 31, 2022

The Voltage Effect with John A. List

Listen to the University of Chicago Professor discussing his new book that focuses on the necessity of scaling ideas and the things that help and get in the way of doing this.

32 Minutes | February 22, 2022

Corporate Explorer with Andy Binns and Charles O’Reilly

“There's an irony as organizations become successful, they learn and that learning gets embedded in systems and processes and metrics. The very things that are making them successful, also make it more difficult for them to become explorers.”

27 Minutes | February 8, 2022

Deep Purpose with Ranjay Gulati

Organizational scholar and professor at Harvard Business School, Ranjay Gulati shares insight into his latest book, introducing the concept of “deep purpose” in achieving company-wide commercial value and social good.

30 Minutes | December 9, 2021

Winning the Right Game with Ron Adner

Ron Adner, a Tuck Professor and ecosystem thought leader, discusses his new book, which deals with the intersection of ecosystems strategy and competitive disruption, with Martin Reeves.

28 Minutes | October 12, 2021

Open Strategy with Christian Stadler

The authors argue that history is flooded with examples of companies, governments, and individuals who faced problems that could have been solved with openness. The book analyzes these examples to warrant the overall premise of opening up strategy.

29 Minutes | May 28, 2021

Noise with Olivier Sibony

This book focuses on the scatter inherent in decision-making. Learn more about how noise differs from bias, how it arises, and how it can be reduced through what the authors call decision-making hygiene.

28 Minutes | May 21, 2021

Framers with Kenneth Cukier and Francis de Véricourt

How can we better use the uniquely human capability of framing to generate new options and structure decision-making effectively? An important book for anyone involved in problem-solving with valuable lessons on how to improve one's ability to frame and reframe.

25 Minutes | April 28, 2021

The Global Rule of Three with Jagdish Sheth, Can Uslay, and Raj Sisodia

In the absence of excessive regulation or anti-competitive practices, industries are observed to evolve toward an optimal market structure described by the Rule of Three. The authors, building on Bruce Henderson's original research, explore how the rule works in today's global environment.

22 Minutes | March 16, 2021

Business Model Innovation Strategy with Raffi Amit and Chris Zott

This book is a guide on business model design for leaders. The authors argue that business model innovation does not replace traditional strategy, but instead complements it by providing new opportunities to disrupt the market or reinvigorate an established firm by creating an advantaged system of activities.

21 Minutes | January 26, 2021

2030 with Mauro F. Guillén

In this book, Guillén, the new Dean of Cambridge Judge Business School, outlines eight interlocking trends that will reshape society as we know it by 2030.

25 Minutes | November 17, 2020

The Phoenix Encounter Method with Sameer Hasija

Sameer Hasija, professor at INSEAD discusses insights from a new book he coauthored with Ian Woodward, Paddy Padmanabhan, and Ram Charan. The authors argue that in order to avoid being disrupted, leaders need to go through “phoenix encounters” in which they contemplate and simulate their own disruption.

20 Minutes | October 20, 2020

Radical Uncertainty with John Kay

In their new book, John Kay and Mervyn King argue that statistical models have only limited value in guiding business decision making. In an uncertain world, decision making should be guided by developing and critically challenging reference narratives, to figure out “what’s going on here?”

24 Minutes | October 6, 2020

Janus Strategy with Loizos Heracleous

Loizos Heracleous, professor at the Warwick Business School and Associate Fellow of Green Templeton College and Saïd Business School, probes how some organizations manage to break tradeoffs between competing goals like cost and differentiation. He also explains the mindset and moves leaders need to help their organizations achieve this.

22 Minutes | September 9, 2020

What’s Your Problem? with Thomas Wedell-Wedellsborg

Harvard Business Review Press author Thomas Wedell-Wedellsborg says that 85% of companies he surveyed for his new book don’t consider themselves to be good at framing problems correctly. The good news: according to his research, you can learn how to get better at solving the right problems.

27 Minutes | September 1, 2020

Uncharted with Margaret Heffernan

Margaret Heffernan, a Texas-born, Cambridge-educated author and former media CEO argues that because the future is inherently unpredictable we need to stop force-fitting models for prediction onto business strategy and elsewhere, as doing so only provides us with a false sense of certainty and security.

24 Minutes | August 25, 2020

When More is Not Better with Roger L. Martin

Listen to Roger L. Martin, professor and former dean of the Rotman School of Management, as he analyzes the growing inequality in American society as a threat to the democratic-capitalism underpinning its historical success, and proposes countermeasures for leaders and citizens.

35 Minutes | May 28, 2020

The Ecosystem Edge with Peter J. Williamson

Ecosystem Edge focuses on how to start and manage ecosystems. Listen to Peter J. Williamson, professor of international management at the University of Cambridge, Judge Business School and Fellow of Jesus College as he discusses insights from the book, including ecosystem strategy and innovation.

28 Minutes | May 8, 2020

The Invincible Company with Alex Osterwalder

Alex Osterwalder, the founder of Strategyzer and coauthor of The Invincible Company, decodes how some of the world’s leading companies have built superior business models and reinvented themselves, and shares some lessons on how to achieve this.

17 Minutes | June 16, 2020

The Art of Innovation: a Conversation with Steve Blank

Read our interview with Steve Blank drawing on his forthcoming book about innovation, differences between large corporations and startups, strategic ambidexterity, and the disruption and reimagination of companies in the context of the COVID crisis.

26 Minutes | March 4, 2020

Seeing Around Corners with Rita McGrath

Rita McGrath, professor at Columbia Business School, discusses her new book, Seeing Around Corners, a guide to anticipating and capitalizing on disruptive inflection points shaping markets.


26 Minutes | July 14, 2021

Remote Work Revolution with Tsedal Neeley

The rapid changes brought on by Covid-19 were unprecedented, but remote work (and the concerns that accompany it) is not new. In her book, Neeley provides evidence-based answers to these pressing concerns as well as practical guidance for internalizing and applying best practices.

29 Minutes | December 13, 2022

How the Future Works with Brian Elliott

"Flexibility is more than where people work. It's rethinking how and when we work that allows us to unlock the potential in people, improve organizational performance, and build more inclusive organizations."

21 Minutes | September 28, 2021

The Burnout Epidemic with Jennifer Moss

Burnout is real, and it has increased significantly since the pandemic struck. Moss's new book attempts to explain burnout and provide strategies to navigate these challenging times.

29 Minutes | April 26, 2022

Redesigning Work with Lynda Gratton

Join Lynda Gratton is a Professor of Management Practice at London Business School as she explains how to deliberately redesign work taking into account not only the specifics of each job, but also a range of other technological, social and ethical factors.

27 Minutes | July 27, 2021

The Family Business Handbook with Rob Lachenauer

Lachenauer, the CEO of BanyanGlobal argues that family businesses can represent both the best and worst forms of capitalism. He outlines what separates the best from the worst, and describes the steps needed to build enduring family businesses.

24 Minutes | May 5, 2021

How Boards Work with Dambisa Moyo

Moyo argues that today’s boards have three main tasks: shaping the company strategy, selecting leaders (in particular, the CEO), and safeguarding the company’s culture, ethics, and values. She provides valuable advice on how these central tasks can be executed effectively.

22 Minutes | July 8, 2020

Humanocracy with Gary Hamel

Gary Hamel and Michele Zanini’s new book highlights bureaucracy’s social, economic, and strategic shortcomings and proposes "humanocracy" as an alternative management model.


23 Minutes | September 14, 2021

AI 2041 with Kai-Fu Lee

Kai-Fu Lee, CEO of Sinovation Ventures, discusses his new book, AI 2041, sharing his thinking and predictions on AI’s potential applications and explores human deillemmas which arise as a result.

28 Minutes | October 19, 2021

The Exponential Age with Azeem Azhar

The creator of the Exponential View newsletter and community published a new book on how technology impacts economies and companies, and how this force can be best harnessed.

31 Minutes | April 13, 2021

Futureproof with Kevin Roose

New York Times tech columnist and best-selling author Kevin Roose focuses on how people can be happy and successful in a world where our lives are increasingly structured by technology.

29 Minutes | November 23, 2021

Rule of the Robots with Martin Ford

In a sequel to his NYT bestseller, Rise of the Robots, Martin Ford claims that the best way to understand the impact of artificial intelligence on the economy and society is to see it as a utility analogous to electricity — in fact, “the electricity of intelligence.”

29 Minutes | September 15, 2020

The Ethical Algorithm with Michael Kearns

Why do we need ethical and fair algorithms? A thought-provoking conversation with Michael Kearns of the University of Pennsylvania on the pervasiveness of algorithms, differential privacy, and the importance of socially aware algorithm design.

22 Minutes | March 4, 2020

Competing in the Age of AI with Karim Lakhani

Listen to Karim Lakhani of Harvard Business School discuss his new book about how AI is changing the way we think about competition, organization and business models.

30 Minutes | November 15, 2022

Power and Prediction with Joshua Gans

"Prediction is only useful if it's going to change something that you do. You wouldn't check your weather forecast app every day if it didn't help inform your clothing or routine. Prediction has to inform a decision."


30 Minutes | July 28, 2021

Three Days at Camp David with Jeffrey E. Garten

“The United States simply could not hold up the world the way it had before. So, this inflection was both an economic and a political one." "I don't know how you call the inflection point, but I would say that we are nearing one.”

23 Minutes | June 11, 2021

The Power of Creative Destruction with Philippe Aghion

"My dream capitalism is a capitalism that will be as innovative as America's and as protective and inclusive as the Danish system. And I think it's possible."

19 Minutes | September 29, 2020

Outside the Box with Marc Levinson

"We're now moving into a fourth phase of globalization where it's really going to be services rather than stuff that's at the heart of global value chains.”

0 Minutes | June 26, 2020

Trade Wars Are Class Wars with Matthew C. Klein

"If you want to understand what’s going on with trade conflicts and the global economy, you have to understand class conflicts within these countries.”

35 Minutes | April 23, 2021

The Great Demographic Reversal with Charles Goodhart and Manoj Pradhan

"Instead of inflation being easy to control as it relatively has been after Paul Volcker took the measures to bring inflation down, inflation will become much harder for a combination of government and the central bank to bring back under control."

25 Minutes | December 18, 2020

Economic Complexity and Growth Forecasts — a Conversation with Luciano Pietronero

Luciano Pietronero is an Italian statistical physics and full professor at the department of physics at University of Rome Sapienza. He was the founder and director of the Institute of Complex Systems of CNR from 2004 to 2014. Luciano’s research activities have been on fundamental and applied problems in the areas of condensed matter theory, […]

29 Minutes | October 27, 2020

A World Without Work with Daniel Susskind

"The economic challenge of the 21st century is one of distribution—how does society share its income—when our traditional way of doing so, paying people for their work, might be less effective than it was in the past.”

Society & Planet

27 Minutes | November 11, 2021

Net Positive with Paul Polman and Andrew Winston

This book outlines a framework to help leaders build "net positive companies" that profit by contributing more to the world than they use or take.

32 Minutes | December 2, 2022

Purpose and Profit with George Serafeim

"Organizations need to understand that they cannot allow the standards and the reporting efforts to drive their strategy. It's the other way around."

18 Minutes | October 13, 2020

Sustainable Investing with Georg Kell

Georg Kell, along with Herman Bril and Andreas Rasche, are the co-editors of Sustainable Investing: A Path to a New Horizon, a unique combination of perspectives from academics and practitioners on how corporate sustainability and sustainable investing are converging and driving change in markets.

26 Minutes | May 18, 2021

Manifesto for a Moral Revolution with Jacqueline Novogratz

In her latest book, Novogratz explains that continued technological advancement and market solutions alone won’t solve the defining problems of our time, like inequality and climate change. She calls for a moral revolution to reimagine and reform technology, politics, and business.

23 Minutes | March 2, 2021

The Lonely Century with Noreena Hertz

Hertz’s latest book focuses on why loneliness has become a defining condition of the 21st century. The author argues that loneliness is not merely a mental health crisis — it is also a physical health crisis, an economic crisis, and a political crisis that has profound implications for individuals and businesses.

25 Minutes | January 13, 2021

The Six New Rules of Business with Judy Samuelson

The executive director of the Aspen Institute Business and Society Program explores how societal shifts in recent decades have upended the traditional rules of business and offers new rules to make businesses successful in their new social contexts.

20 Minutes | September 22, 2020

Reimagining Capitalism with Rebecca Henderson

In her new book, Rebecca Henderson, professor at Harvard Business School, argues why and how we need to reimagine capitalism if we want to solve today’s big issues.

28 Minutes | July 15, 2020

The Ages of Globalization with Jeffrey D. Sachs

Sachs' new book describes the dynamics of globalization across history and how it has influenced and has been influenced by economy, culture, geography, and technology.

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